OT: A very good tool
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Started on 2003-06-17
Re: [LbNA] OT: A very good tool
From: Randy Hall (randy@mapsurfer.com) |
Date: 2003-06-17 20:14:25 UTC-04:00
> Maybe Randy knows more about this stuff?
I do. Its nice to know something (or at least pretend to) :-)
Everything that has been said is true, but what hasn't been said, and
is always my first recommendation --
* Do not use Outlook.
* Do not use Internet Explorer.
You will have less malware. Its that simple. (And I'm not an
anti-Microsoft person, but reality is reality -- all software has
security flaws, just as all airlines have "incidents", but I'd
rather fly Qantas than Aeroflot ...).
After that, books and web sites abound on personal computer security.
(I'm personally not a big believer in anti-virus software as a solution --
I think the technological approach is unsophisticated and non-adaptave
to new threats; it provides a false sense of security; and its existence
discourages people from learning how to operate a personal computer
safely before connecting it to the public internet).
Sorry for the rather OT post, but it it gets just _one_ person off
of Outlook, the internet will be a better place for all, and it will
have been worth it (again, no offense to MS, but I'm not making this
stuff up). (and besides, I was asked :-))
Cheers
Re: [LbNA] OT: A very good tool
From: bcostley (bobbyeubanks@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2003-06-18 05:20:14 UTC
Blaming security flaws in Outlook and IE is kinda like blaming
Toyota for the Camry (different model years) occupying about half of
the top ten most stolen vehical list. Camrys aren't easier to steal:
the popularity of the car makes it a favorite target of thieves
since parts are in high demand. Similarly, why would a virus writer
spend effort to attack software with miniscule market share? The
flaws are in all software, but no one much bothers to look for them
in anything other than what's popular.
Microsoft software possibly has more secuirty flaws but that is
definately not the reason it is targeted more than other software.
That said, buying an unpopular make of car can reduce the chance it
gets stolen and using non-MS software does reduce your virus
exposure. So Randy's advice is good - up until the point that your
chosen alternative becomes popular enough to attack.
Brett - user of Outlook, IE, and driver of a Camry. :)
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Randy Hall wrote:
>
> > Maybe Randy knows more about this stuff?
>
> I do. Its nice to know something (or at least pretend to) :-)
>
> Everything that has been said is true, but what hasn't been said,
and
> is always my first recommendation --
>
> * Do not use Outlook.
>
> * Do not use Internet Explorer.
>
> You will have less malware. Its that simple. (And I'm not an
> anti-Microsoft person, but reality is reality -- all software has
> security flaws, just as all airlines have "incidents", but I'd
> rather fly Qantas than Aeroflot ...).
>
> After that, books and web sites abound on personal computer
security.
> (I'm personally not a big believer in anti-virus software as a
solution --
> I think the technological approach is unsophisticated and non-
adaptave
> to new threats; it provides a false sense of security; and its
existence
> discourages people from learning how to operate a personal
computer
> safely before connecting it to the public internet).
>
> Sorry for the rather OT post, but it it gets just _one_ person off
> of Outlook, the internet will be a better place for all, and it
will
> have been worth it (again, no offense to MS, but I'm not making
this
> stuff up). (and besides, I was asked :-))
>
> Cheers
Toyota for the Camry (different model years) occupying about half of
the top ten most stolen vehical list. Camrys aren't easier to steal:
the popularity of the car makes it a favorite target of thieves
since parts are in high demand. Similarly, why would a virus writer
spend effort to attack software with miniscule market share? The
flaws are in all software, but no one much bothers to look for them
in anything other than what's popular.
Microsoft software possibly has more secuirty flaws but that is
definately not the reason it is targeted more than other software.
That said, buying an unpopular make of car can reduce the chance it
gets stolen and using non-MS software does reduce your virus
exposure. So Randy's advice is good - up until the point that your
chosen alternative becomes popular enough to attack.
Brett - user of Outlook, IE, and driver of a Camry. :)
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Randy Hall
>
> > Maybe Randy knows more about this stuff?
>
> I do. Its nice to know something (or at least pretend to) :-)
>
> Everything that has been said is true, but what hasn't been said,
and
> is always my first recommendation --
>
> * Do not use Outlook.
>
> * Do not use Internet Explorer.
>
> You will have less malware. Its that simple. (And I'm not an
> anti-Microsoft person, but reality is reality -- all software has
> security flaws, just as all airlines have "incidents", but I'd
> rather fly Qantas than Aeroflot ...).
>
> After that, books and web sites abound on personal computer
security.
> (I'm personally not a big believer in anti-virus software as a
solution --
> I think the technological approach is unsophisticated and non-
adaptave
> to new threats; it provides a false sense of security; and its
existence
> discourages people from learning how to operate a personal
computer
> safely before connecting it to the public internet).
>
> Sorry for the rather OT post, but it it gets just _one_ person off
> of Outlook, the internet will be a better place for all, and it
will
> have been worth it (again, no offense to MS, but I'm not making
this
> stuff up). (and besides, I was asked :-))
>
> Cheers
Re: OT: A very good tool
From: ehughes52 (libby@twcny.rr.com) |
Date: 2003-06-18 05:44:31 UTC
No, really, Randy knows what he's talking about. For an outside expert
opinion go to: http://aroundcny.com/technofile/ and read up on what
Al Fasoldt has to say about MS, IE, Outlook and their security
problems. Why do you think it's so easy for viruses, trojan horses,
worms & other nasties to spread? Because IE & Outlook are full of
holes. Once I dumped Outlook and IE from my Mac - poof - no more
problems. I stick with Netscape & Eudora and avoid using MS products.
catbead
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "bcostley"
wrote:
> Blaming security flaws in Outlook and IE is kinda like blaming
> Toyota for the Camry (different model years) occupying about half
of
> the top ten most stolen vehical list. Camrys aren't easier to
steal:
> the popularity of the car makes it a favorite target of thieves
> since parts are in high demand. Similarly, why would a virus writer
> spend effort to attack software with miniscule market share? The
> flaws are in all software, but no one much bothers to look for them
> in anything other than what's popular.
>
> Microsoft software possibly has more secuirty flaws but that is
> definately not the reason it is targeted more than other software.
>
> That said, buying an unpopular make of car can reduce the chance it
> gets stolen and using non-MS software does reduce your virus
> exposure. So Randy's advice is good - up until the point that your
> chosen alternative becomes popular enough to attack.
>
> Brett - user of Outlook, IE, and driver of a Camry. :)
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Randy Hall wrote:
> >
> > > Maybe Randy knows more about this stuff?
> >
> > I do. Its nice to know something (or at least pretend to) :-)
> >
> > Everything that has been said is true, but what hasn't been said,
> and
> > is always my first recommendation --
> >
> > * Do not use Outlook.
> >
> > * Do not use Internet Explorer.
> >
> > You will have less malware. Its that simple. (And I'm not an
> > anti-Microsoft person, but reality is reality -- all software has
> > security flaws, just as all airlines have "incidents", but I'd
> > rather fly Qantas than Aeroflot ...).
> >
> > After that, books and web sites abound on personal computer
> security.
> > (I'm personally not a big believer in anti-virus software as a
> solution --
> > I think the technological approach is unsophisticated and non-
> adaptave
> > to new threats; it provides a false sense of security; and its
> existence
> > discourages people from learning how to operate a personal
> computer
> > safely before connecting it to the public internet).
> >
> > Sorry for the rather OT post, but it it gets just _one_ person off
> > of Outlook, the internet will be a better place for all, and it
> will
> > have been worth it (again, no offense to MS, but I'm not making
> this
> > stuff up). (and besides, I was asked :-))
> >
> > Cheers
opinion go to: http://aroundcny.com/technofile/ and read up on what
Al Fasoldt has to say about MS, IE, Outlook and their security
problems. Why do you think it's so easy for viruses, trojan horses,
worms & other nasties to spread? Because IE & Outlook are full of
holes. Once I dumped Outlook and IE from my Mac - poof - no more
problems. I stick with Netscape & Eudora and avoid using MS products.
catbead
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "bcostley"
wrote:
> Blaming security flaws in Outlook and IE is kinda like blaming
> Toyota for the Camry (different model years) occupying about half
of
> the top ten most stolen vehical list. Camrys aren't easier to
steal:
> the popularity of the car makes it a favorite target of thieves
> since parts are in high demand. Similarly, why would a virus writer
> spend effort to attack software with miniscule market share? The
> flaws are in all software, but no one much bothers to look for them
> in anything other than what's popular.
>
> Microsoft software possibly has more secuirty flaws but that is
> definately not the reason it is targeted more than other software.
>
> That said, buying an unpopular make of car can reduce the chance it
> gets stolen and using non-MS software does reduce your virus
> exposure. So Randy's advice is good - up until the point that your
> chosen alternative becomes popular enough to attack.
>
> Brett - user of Outlook, IE, and driver of a Camry. :)
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Randy Hall
> >
> > > Maybe Randy knows more about this stuff?
> >
> > I do. Its nice to know something (or at least pretend to) :-)
> >
> > Everything that has been said is true, but what hasn't been said,
> and
> > is always my first recommendation --
> >
> > * Do not use Outlook.
> >
> > * Do not use Internet Explorer.
> >
> > You will have less malware. Its that simple. (And I'm not an
> > anti-Microsoft person, but reality is reality -- all software has
> > security flaws, just as all airlines have "incidents", but I'd
> > rather fly Qantas than Aeroflot ...).
> >
> > After that, books and web sites abound on personal computer
> security.
> > (I'm personally not a big believer in anti-virus software as a
> solution --
> > I think the technological approach is unsophisticated and non-
> adaptave
> > to new threats; it provides a false sense of security; and its
> existence
> > discourages people from learning how to operate a personal
> computer
> > safely before connecting it to the public internet).
> >
> > Sorry for the rather OT post, but it it gets just _one_ person off
> > of Outlook, the internet will be a better place for all, and it
> will
> > have been worth it (again, no offense to MS, but I'm not making
> this
> > stuff up). (and besides, I was asked :-))
> >
> > Cheers
Re: OT: A very good tool
From: bcostley (bobbyeubanks@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2003-06-18 16:14:48 UTC
No, really, I think you missed the point. Popular software is
attacked more often.
All software has security holes. Eudora is no exception. One
example: http://news.com.com/2100-1023-239832.html?legacy=cnet
Try these links for Linux vs. MS security:
http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/19649.html
http://www.vnunet.com/News/1128907
Mac susceptability:
http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/19930.html
Note particulary the "Window Watching" section. It's almost as if I
had written that section.
If you were a virus writer, which headline would you prefer to see
as a result of your work?
Millions of Microsoft Users Infected With New Letterbox Virus
Tens of Eudora Users Infected With New Letterbox Virus
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "ehughes52" wrote:
> No, really, Randy knows what he's talking about. For an outside
expert
> opinion go to: http://aroundcny.com/technofile/ and read up on
what
> Al Fasoldt has to say about MS, IE, Outlook and their security
> problems. Why do you think it's so easy for viruses, trojan horses,
> worms & other nasties to spread? Because IE & Outlook are full of
> holes. Once I dumped Outlook and IE from my Mac - poof - no more
> problems. I stick with Netscape & Eudora and avoid using MS
products.
>
>
> catbead
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "bcostley"
> wrote:
> > Blaming security flaws in Outlook and IE is kinda like blaming
> > Toyota for the Camry (different model years) occupying about half
> of
> > the top ten most stolen vehical list. Camrys aren't easier to
> steal:
> > the popularity of the car makes it a favorite target of thieves
> > since parts are in high demand. Similarly, why would a virus
writer
> > spend effort to attack software with miniscule market share? The
> > flaws are in all software, but no one much bothers to look for
them
> > in anything other than what's popular.
> >
> > Microsoft software possibly has more secuirty flaws but that is
> > definately not the reason it is targeted more than other
software.
> >
> > That said, buying an unpopular make of car can reduce the chance
it
> > gets stolen and using non-MS software does reduce your virus
> > exposure. So Randy's advice is good - up until the point that
your
> > chosen alternative becomes popular enough to attack.
> >
> > Brett - user of Outlook, IE, and driver of a Camry. :)
> >
> >
> > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Randy Hall
wrote:
> > >
> > > > Maybe Randy knows more about this stuff?
> > >
> > > I do. Its nice to know something (or at least pretend to) :-)
> > >
> > > Everything that has been said is true, but what hasn't been
said,
> > and
> > > is always my first recommendation --
> > >
> > > * Do not use Outlook.
> > >
> > > * Do not use Internet Explorer.
> > >
> > > You will have less malware. Its that simple. (And I'm not an
> > > anti-Microsoft person, but reality is reality -- all software
has
> > > security flaws, just as all airlines have "incidents", but I'd
> > > rather fly Qantas than Aeroflot ...).
> > >
> > > After that, books and web sites abound on personal computer
> > security.
> > > (I'm personally not a big believer in anti-virus software as a
> > solution --
> > > I think the technological approach is unsophisticated and non-
> > adaptave
> > > to new threats; it provides a false sense of security; and its
> > existence
> > > discourages people from learning how to operate a personal
> > computer
> > > safely before connecting it to the public internet).
> > >
> > > Sorry for the rather OT post, but it it gets just _one_ person
off
> > > of Outlook, the internet will be a better place for all, and
it
> > will
> > > have been worth it (again, no offense to MS, but I'm not
making
> > this
> > > stuff up). (and besides, I was asked :-))
> > >
> > > Cheers
attacked more often.
All software has security holes. Eudora is no exception. One
example: http://news.com.com/2100-1023-239832.html?legacy=cnet
Try these links for Linux vs. MS security:
http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/19649.html
http://www.vnunet.com/News/1128907
Mac susceptability:
http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/19930.html
Note particulary the "Window Watching" section. It's almost as if I
had written that section.
If you were a virus writer, which headline would you prefer to see
as a result of your work?
Millions of Microsoft Users Infected With New Letterbox Virus
Tens of Eudora Users Infected With New Letterbox Virus
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "ehughes52"
> No, really, Randy knows what he's talking about. For an outside
expert
> opinion go to: http://aroundcny.com/technofile/ and read up on
what
> Al Fasoldt has to say about MS, IE, Outlook and their security
> problems. Why do you think it's so easy for viruses, trojan horses,
> worms & other nasties to spread? Because IE & Outlook are full of
> holes. Once I dumped Outlook and IE from my Mac - poof - no more
> problems. I stick with Netscape & Eudora and avoid using MS
products.
>
>
> catbead
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "bcostley"
> wrote:
> > Blaming security flaws in Outlook and IE is kinda like blaming
> > Toyota for the Camry (different model years) occupying about half
> of
> > the top ten most stolen vehical list. Camrys aren't easier to
> steal:
> > the popularity of the car makes it a favorite target of thieves
> > since parts are in high demand. Similarly, why would a virus
writer
> > spend effort to attack software with miniscule market share? The
> > flaws are in all software, but no one much bothers to look for
them
> > in anything other than what's popular.
> >
> > Microsoft software possibly has more secuirty flaws but that is
> > definately not the reason it is targeted more than other
software.
> >
> > That said, buying an unpopular make of car can reduce the chance
it
> > gets stolen and using non-MS software does reduce your virus
> > exposure. So Randy's advice is good - up until the point that
your
> > chosen alternative becomes popular enough to attack.
> >
> > Brett - user of Outlook, IE, and driver of a Camry. :)
> >
> >
> > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Randy Hall
wrote:
> > >
> > > > Maybe Randy knows more about this stuff?
> > >
> > > I do. Its nice to know something (or at least pretend to) :-)
> > >
> > > Everything that has been said is true, but what hasn't been
said,
> > and
> > > is always my first recommendation --
> > >
> > > * Do not use Outlook.
> > >
> > > * Do not use Internet Explorer.
> > >
> > > You will have less malware. Its that simple. (And I'm not an
> > > anti-Microsoft person, but reality is reality -- all software
has
> > > security flaws, just as all airlines have "incidents", but I'd
> > > rather fly Qantas than Aeroflot ...).
> > >
> > > After that, books and web sites abound on personal computer
> > security.
> > > (I'm personally not a big believer in anti-virus software as a
> > solution --
> > > I think the technological approach is unsophisticated and non-
> > adaptave
> > > to new threats; it provides a false sense of security; and its
> > existence
> > > discourages people from learning how to operate a personal
> > computer
> > > safely before connecting it to the public internet).
> > >
> > > Sorry for the rather OT post, but it it gets just _one_ person
off
> > > of Outlook, the internet will be a better place for all, and
it
> > will
> > > have been worth it (again, no offense to MS, but I'm not
making
> > this
> > > stuff up). (and besides, I was asked :-))
> > >
> > > Cheers
Re: OT: A very good tool
From: ehughes52 (libby@twcny.rr.com) |
Date: 2003-06-18 20:27:23 UTC
Point well taken.
catbead
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "bcostley"
wrote:
> No, really, I think you missed the point. Popular software is
> attacked more often.
>
> All software has security holes. Eudora is no exception. One
> example: http://news.com.com/2100-1023-239832.html?legacy=cnet
>
> Try these links for Linux vs. MS security:
>
> http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/19649.html
> http://www.vnunet.com/News/1128907
>
> Mac susceptability:
>
> http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/19930.html
>
> Note particulary the "Window Watching" section. It's almost as if I
> had written that section.
>
> If you were a virus writer, which headline would you prefer to see
> as a result of your work?
>
> Millions of Microsoft Users Infected With New Letterbox Virus
>
> Tens of Eudora Users Infected With New Letterbox Virus
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "ehughes52"
wrote:
> > No, really, Randy knows what he's talking about. For an outside
> expert
> > opinion go to: http://aroundcny.com/technofile/ and read up on
> what
> > Al Fasoldt has to say about MS, IE, Outlook and their security
> > problems. Why do you think it's so easy for viruses, trojan
horses,
> > worms & other nasties to spread? Because IE & Outlook are full of
> > holes. Once I dumped Outlook and IE from my Mac - poof - no more
> > problems. I stick with Netscape & Eudora and avoid using MS
> products.
> >
> >
> > catbead
> >
> >
> > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "bcostley"
>
> > wrote:
> > > Blaming security flaws in Outlook and IE is kinda like blaming
> > > Toyota for the Camry (different model years) occupying about
half
> > of
> > > the top ten most stolen vehical list. Camrys aren't easier to
> > steal:
> > > the popularity of the car makes it a favorite target of thieves
> > > since parts are in high demand. Similarly, why would a virus
> writer
> > > spend effort to attack software with miniscule market share?
The
> > > flaws are in all software, but no one much bothers to look for
> them
> > > in anything other than what's popular.
> > >
> > > Microsoft software possibly has more secuirty flaws but that is
> > > definately not the reason it is targeted more than other
> software.
> > >
> > > That said, buying an unpopular make of car can reduce the
chance
> it
> > > gets stolen and using non-MS software does reduce your virus
> > > exposure. So Randy's advice is good - up until the point that
> your
> > > chosen alternative becomes popular enough to attack.
> > >
> > > Brett - user of Outlook, IE, and driver of a Camry. :)
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Randy Hall
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Maybe Randy knows more about this stuff?
> > > >
> > > > I do. Its nice to know something (or at least pretend to) :-)
> > > >
> > > > Everything that has been said is true, but what hasn't been
> said,
> > > and
> > > > is always my first recommendation --
> > > >
> > > > * Do not use Outlook.
> > > >
> > > > * Do not use Internet Explorer.
> > > >
> > > > You will have less malware. Its that simple. (And I'm not
an
> > > > anti-Microsoft person, but reality is reality -- all software
> has
> > > > security flaws, just as all airlines have "incidents", but
I'd
> > > > rather fly Qantas than Aeroflot ...).
> > > >
> > > > After that, books and web sites abound on personal computer
> > > security.
> > > > (I'm personally not a big believer in anti-virus software as
a
> > > solution --
> > > > I think the technological approach is unsophisticated and non-
> > > adaptave
> > > > to new threats; it provides a false sense of security; and
its
> > > existence
> > > > discourages people from learning how to operate a personal
> > > computer
> > > > safely before connecting it to the public internet).
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for the rather OT post, but it it gets just _one_
person
> off
> > > > of Outlook, the internet will be a better place for all, and
> it
> > > will
> > > > have been worth it (again, no offense to MS, but I'm not
> making
> > > this
> > > > stuff up). (and besides, I was asked :-))
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
catbead
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "bcostley"
wrote:
> No, really, I think you missed the point. Popular software is
> attacked more often.
>
> All software has security holes. Eudora is no exception. One
> example: http://news.com.com/2100-1023-239832.html?legacy=cnet
>
> Try these links for Linux vs. MS security:
>
> http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/19649.html
> http://www.vnunet.com/News/1128907
>
> Mac susceptability:
>
> http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/19930.html
>
> Note particulary the "Window Watching" section. It's almost as if I
> had written that section.
>
> If you were a virus writer, which headline would you prefer to see
> as a result of your work?
>
> Millions of Microsoft Users Infected With New Letterbox Virus
>
> Tens of Eudora Users Infected With New Letterbox Virus
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "ehughes52"
wrote:
> > No, really, Randy knows what he's talking about. For an outside
> expert
> > opinion go to: http://aroundcny.com/technofile/ and read up on
> what
> > Al Fasoldt has to say about MS, IE, Outlook and their security
> > problems. Why do you think it's so easy for viruses, trojan
horses,
> > worms & other nasties to spread? Because IE & Outlook are full of
> > holes. Once I dumped Outlook and IE from my Mac - poof - no more
> > problems. I stick with Netscape & Eudora and avoid using MS
> products.
> >
> >
> > catbead
> >
> >
> > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "bcostley"
>
> > wrote:
> > > Blaming security flaws in Outlook and IE is kinda like blaming
> > > Toyota for the Camry (different model years) occupying about
half
> > of
> > > the top ten most stolen vehical list. Camrys aren't easier to
> > steal:
> > > the popularity of the car makes it a favorite target of thieves
> > > since parts are in high demand. Similarly, why would a virus
> writer
> > > spend effort to attack software with miniscule market share?
The
> > > flaws are in all software, but no one much bothers to look for
> them
> > > in anything other than what's popular.
> > >
> > > Microsoft software possibly has more secuirty flaws but that is
> > > definately not the reason it is targeted more than other
> software.
> > >
> > > That said, buying an unpopular make of car can reduce the
chance
> it
> > > gets stolen and using non-MS software does reduce your virus
> > > exposure. So Randy's advice is good - up until the point that
> your
> > > chosen alternative becomes popular enough to attack.
> > >
> > > Brett - user of Outlook, IE, and driver of a Camry. :)
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Randy Hall
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Maybe Randy knows more about this stuff?
> > > >
> > > > I do. Its nice to know something (or at least pretend to) :-)
> > > >
> > > > Everything that has been said is true, but what hasn't been
> said,
> > > and
> > > > is always my first recommendation --
> > > >
> > > > * Do not use Outlook.
> > > >
> > > > * Do not use Internet Explorer.
> > > >
> > > > You will have less malware. Its that simple. (And I'm not
an
> > > > anti-Microsoft person, but reality is reality -- all software
> has
> > > > security flaws, just as all airlines have "incidents", but
I'd
> > > > rather fly Qantas than Aeroflot ...).
> > > >
> > > > After that, books and web sites abound on personal computer
> > > security.
> > > > (I'm personally not a big believer in anti-virus software as
a
> > > solution --
> > > > I think the technological approach is unsophisticated and non-
> > > adaptave
> > > > to new threats; it provides a false sense of security; and
its
> > > existence
> > > > discourages people from learning how to operate a personal
> > > computer
> > > > safely before connecting it to the public internet).
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for the rather OT post, but it it gets just _one_
person
> off
> > > > of Outlook, the internet will be a better place for all, and
> it
> > > will
> > > > have been worth it (again, no offense to MS, but I'm not
> making
> > > this
> > > > stuff up). (and besides, I was asked :-))
> > > >
> > > > Cheers